Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: And my mother laid her hands on me and I had never ever heard her pray. With the volume that she prayed that day, she poured out her soul. Let me take you back to the hymn.
Give up thy sons to bear the message glorious Give up thy wealth to speed them on their way Pour out thy soul for them in prayer victorious and all thou spendest Jesus will repay.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Welcome back to the well, An Elam Fellowship Leadership Podcast. I'm your host, Leah, Social media and marketing coordinator here at Elam Fellowship. Each episode we draw from the heart of our leadership community and share messages that refresh, challenge and equip you in your walk with Christ.
Today we're continuing with the conclusion of a powerful two part teaching from Sylvia Evans at our prophetic ministry conference held this past August. If you missed part one, be sure to go back and listen. But for now, let's dive into the conclusion of this timely message.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: And here's what I actually teach a course.
I'll come to your church or your Bible school and do it. But it's called practically prophetic. Somebody said to me. You mean almost prophetic? No, no, no, no.
Because Jonathan and all the others that have spoken have, have given you the great spiritual dimensions of the prophetic.
I bring you down to the practical, the best beginning for you and Jonathan. By the way, I was going to do the friend of God thing, so thanks for taking care of that one.
And that's why I was struggling here. Okay, he did that.
But I have him, the friend of God on the bottom level of the prophetic, as the beginning level, the top level prophet to the nations. And you know all about them. And, and then the next is a prophetic leader.
I think every leader should be prophetic. But prophetic leaders are really essential for the purposes of God.
And then the person in the office, a prophet who is a gift.
He is the gift. The person is the gift. Then there's the person under that who has the gift of prophecy. He has a gift. There's a difference between he is a gift and he has a gift.
And then it comes down, coming down to the learner that all may learn to prophesy.
And life will require it of you if you walk with God.
But at the bottom of the ladder, the starting point is a friend of God.
And then if I take the ladder and make it into a circle, guess what happens?
It comes that the prophet to the nations is a friend of God.
But the latter requires that you try to classify where is this person? Or where am I in that?
But you never get away from this friend of God. And God talks.
But there's another level, and that level is the friend of God who is called your mother or your father or your friend or somebody that God can trust to care enough about your destiny that they will hear from God for you or the intercessors in your church.
Where's Diane? There she is.
And there are a bunch of my church people here who pray. You do pray for me, don't you? I believe you do.
No, no. The intercessors.
And so. So this thing about Africa for me became real to me as a child. When I was four years old, when the hills, our original missionaries and the DODS whites and the sicklers came from Africa. And I began to weep over seeing adult Africans. Not. Not children, adult Africans. I began to weep over them.
And I knew from the time I was four, Africa's for me.
And yet every time I tried to go, and everybody knew I was going. No.
Why?
Because I wasn't yet to the place where he wanted me to be in ministry.
Because the best I had in my mind was to teach school. I'll tell you that. I got to teach school for half a day in the school I intended to stay in till I died. And I. It's still not too late for me to.
To die over there. But I'm not planning to go there to die. I'm planning to keep going to minister.
But God had to bring me through.
But one thing that was a key was not just that I had this burden, but when I was a sophomore in college and I wrote to my parents a long letter. I had spent an afternoon with God, and I knew that I must go to Africa. And I wrote it to them.
And. And I thought I was informing them. That's what I thought.
And I got a long letter back from my mother saying, oh, I know.
I got used to that with her to her dying day.
Oh, I know.
And she told me of how God spoke to her one time. It was either May or Faye. They were identical twins, so it didn't matter.
I mean, truly.
And so Fay or May was standing in front of the front row in Depauville Church, Old Stone Church of Depoville. My daddy opened it when I was two. It had been closed for 25 years.
And so. So she described me sitting there with pigtails, hanging, my eyes glued on Fay.
Faye looked funny with my eyes glued on her, but.
And I was clutching the bench and leaning forward, and my mom was on the twirling piano stool. Y' all Ever do a swirl on those?
And the piano was up against the wall there.
Mom turned around at that time. She was Mommy.
She was Mommy till the day she died. For me.
But she turned around and saw me.
And the Lord said, for Africa.
And she turned back around and said, what was that?
Turned back, looked at me.
For Africa. Three times.
Three times.
Never told me.
Then she told me about the day that apparently we were all in school, not at home, and Joel was sleeping.
And it was during Joel's nap that she had her time because she had felt called to Africa.
And then she learned that her call was intercession for Africa.
And so she was on her knees praying for Kenya.
And the Lord called up him.
Have you ever sung it? O Zion, haste thy mission high Fulfill and to tell to all the world that God is light.
And she got to the third verse.
You know, the third verse?
I guess it's the third verse, maybe it's the fourth. But the third verse gave instructions.
And it was as though the Lord sang that verse to her as she's on her knees.
Give of thy sons to bear the message Glorious Give of thy wealth to speed them on their way Pour out thy soul for them in prayer Victorious and all thou spendest Jesus will repay Good song.
It's just that he hesitated after sons and put in a carrot.
No, not the kind you put in front of a horse.
The little upside down tent thing.
And he wrote, and daughter, now I'm a sophomore in college. I know that. I know. How do I know? I know prophetically.
I know because God was speaking to me. I know because now I know his voice.
I know because I've made my own surrenders.
But the reason I've made that surrender is because I had two parents plus grandparents who gave me to God. Ivan Spencer dedicated me. Do you think Ivan Spencer dedicated me for the sake of having a plush life in America?
Not Ivan Spencer, Elam's founder.
And my mother hears God say, and your daughter.
And she writes to me the description of her emotions appealing to God, as though he didn't know it.
Well, I have three sons.
I have only one daughter.
Yeah, so what? I can hear God say, because he's got all of the sons. Anyway, she's not holding back her sons. Aren't you glad of that, Cheryl?
Because my brother is her father.
And so she gave me to God for Africa when I was six years old, but never told me.
And so I'm closing. I suppose it's time to close.
And all I'm doing is saying, mothers need to be prophets and fathers need to be prophets, and college students need to be prophets.
Because the prophetic is first practical.
It's life related.
It's not for exalting a person as, oh, she hears from God.
It's because of desperation.
And when I was a junior in college and I was a proctor in the dorm, I got to check rooms. But I had responsibility for 16 girls under me. And some of the most mischievous girls drew a room for four of them to be in one room on my floor and ran across campus yelling at me, oh, Silver, you win. You win. What did I win? You got us.
And I had them.
And did I need to have the mind of God and what to do with those? Yes, ma'. Am.
I mean, I'm growing. And then they end up in my, in my room with all kinds of problems that I don't understand. I've never heard of anything like this. And they can't tell me what it really is. And I have to say to God, please help me. And he gives me a picture of a house, an old blue house with, with bramble bushes all around it and it's all run down and, and why are you showing me a house? And so I say it to a girl and find out that's where it all happened.
Because God knew.
It's so prophetic.
I couldn't have imagined such a thing.
But it's so practical that I was able to open the secrets of her heart by helping her to know that God knew where it happened.
And building and building and building in the counseling realm.
I love to preach. I love, I don't love to preach. I love to teach the Bible.
But I love to know that God knows where it is on the page when I don't know what is the answer to this thing. And I open my Bible and there it is right in front of me. The exact thing that I need as an answer.
It comes down to the detail of life.
And so I close with mothers, fathers. I don't care what relationship yours is, friend.
You need the prophetic anointing in your life.
You. You need it.
But let's go to Mom Mary.
Mom Mary.
When her son is 12 years old and he is her son, and she has a right to say this to her son, why have you done this to us?
Feeling victimized by her child.
And he looked at her and he said, mama, don't you.
Don't you know the must of my life?
Don't you know? She said, your father and I have been seeking you for three Days.
And he said, mom, now here's where I really wish that I could view it, but I just can imagine it.
What was her expression as she said, son, your father and I have been looking for you for three days. Why have you done this? Every parent knows this feeling to us. Because, you know, the kid did it just especially to do this to you.
And then he said, don't you.
It's written in monotone.
I don't know which word he emphasized.
Don't you know?
Because if anybody knows, you're the only one who really knows.
Don't you know? I must be about my father's capital F business.
But he went home and was subject to Joseph as his father as he grew in wisdom and stature and in knowledge and in favor with both God and man.
Yeah, but who's the only one who really, really, really, really, really knew?
It was Mary.
So then tell me about his first miracle. Where was it?
You know about it. Come on, Cana, where was it? At what, A wedding? Yeah. And what did he do? Yeah. That is not the important issue of the day.
The important issue of the day is this.
Mom somehow knew they were. No, they had no wine.
I don't know. Was she catering?
I don't know. Was she wanting more wine herself? And she asked for it?
I don't know.
Did she let her son drink wine at age 30? He's. He's a. Why is she concerned? I don't know.
Did she just discern? I don't know. Was it prophetic? Yeah, absolutely. That she came into the knowledge. They have no wine, but standing beside her.
And I think. I think he had all of his disciples with him, too. But there were servants.
And she said, How do mothers do this, Son, Come on.
They have no wine.
And he says to her, now, don't take it as a negative, but he called her woman.
Maybe when you speak to your mother and call her woman, it's disrespectful.
But when you're the one who created woman, You understand woman and you understand mother.
Because she still thinks she's the only mother he has.
He may have two fathers.
She's the only mother.
So she says to him, they have no wine. And he says to her, woman in the Greek.
Translating the Greek directly, it's simply this.
What to you and me?
What is that to you and to me? That's not.
That doesn't concern us. Which is to say they weren't worried that there was not enough wine.
What is that to you and me?
That's none of Our but she had heard him say at age 12, I must be about come on, my father's business.
And he thinks this is his father's business today.
No, she does.
She knows it is.
And you wives are shaking your head because you know when it's time for your husband to do something too.
All right, so let's get it done.
So she oh, I that was off the subject. Forgive me.
What is that to you and to me?
And this is when I would like to catch the eyes.
How did she look back at him and with what kind of smile while she took away from him and said to the servants, Whatever he says to you, do it.
He had already told her, mine hour is not yet come.
But mamas who are in touch with the Heavenly Father know when it's time and have prepared and are preparing for what my moms will go through when their sons and daughters say yes and know it's time.
Oswald Chambers said, it is the tender hand that prevents at the altar. I think the modern translation was hinders it's the tender hand that prevents at the altar.
And so Mary was going to be at the altar of the cross, but she knew when it was time for him to enter into his calling, his ministry.
So now I'm going to broaden it out and say it includes fathers, fathers and mothers. So will you please bow your head at the moment before the Lord, bring your children to an altar with you, commit yourself to God to be the agent.
And I'll take you back to one of my last times with my little mother and my father when they were 92 and 93, just before their death.
My last trip, I was going to be going to several countries in Asia, including China and Singapore.
And I came by to say goodbye.
And my little mommy, who toddled at that point because of neuropathy in her feet, Got up and got into a chair and called Daddy to come from his chair. And he toddled across as she told him bring bring a chair, bring a chair, we're going to pray for Sylvia.
And I knelt down in front of them.
I could do it then it was before the.
And my mother laid her hands on me and I had never ever heard her pray with the volume that she prayed that day, she poured out her soul. Let me take you back to the hymn Give up thy sons to bear the message Glorious give of thy wealth to speed them on their way Pour out thy soul for them in prayer victorious and all thou spendest Jesus will repay.
And she poured out her soul, praying for me every part of the trip and then she prayed for the nations and she prayed for the congregations and she prayed this and she prayed that.
And my daddy closed with prayer for me and I went and did when I got a little offering envelope from my mother and father with Reverend A.D. evans handed outside and it's a $20 offering, $25 offering.
Give up thy wealth to speed them on their way.
Lord Jesus, if you would remember that day that you stood with your mother and she said, whatever he says to you, do it.
Would you please place that in the heart of every mother in this room and every father to say to their children, to say to their servants, to say to anyone else, whatever he says to you, do it.
And now will you give clarity of prophetic unction in families to know how to pray one for another, to know before that person knows to pray before that person knows you're praying it?
I pray, O Lord, for every one of us to fulfill the fullness of the calling and you take us into new realms yourself.
But I pray that you will prepare mothers and fathers and aunts and uncles and grandparents at altars of their own where they make the sacrifice to give their family to God. Thank you that every one of us in our family has the call of God.
And thank you for our parents and thank you for giving us prophetic parents who know the will of God in Jesus name. Amen and Amen. Thank you very much.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: Thanks for joining us for the well and Elam Fellowship Leadership Podcast. We hope you were encouraged and strengthened by this two part session from one of our key speakers, Sylvia Evans, at our Prophetic Ministry Conference.
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